Online Chat Help with Healthcare.gov

Online Chat Help with Healthcare.gov

Excerpts from a real online chat between a potential customer and a customer service representative for Healthcare.gov. For the full chat transcript and to s…

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MrShoeguy says:

The Republican Health Care plan doesn’t need a web site. Or guns. It’s the one where you mind your own mother fucking business.
Now get out of my country.

ὁ_Κύριος_ἐγγύς!Phil4.5 says:

@Steven Di Pietro: You want socialized medicine from the Federal Gov? US borders are OPEN buy a plane ticket to paradise AND STOP LIVING OFF THE TAXPAYERS.

Steven Di Pietro says:

That website works 100% times better then the Republican Health Care plan web Site Does.

Fuck you Tea Bagger Republicans!!!

Greg Becker says:

If it’s a shit sandwich, back up your opinion with REAL facts, not this made up crap. Is it too much to ask for honesty? I’m not sure what is worse…the idiots who make this stuff up or the idiots that believe it.

Ben Filley says:

and i clearly cant type today!

Ben Filley says:

no worries, thats why i asked for clirifiication.

Bluto2973 says:

You’re right. Now that I can see your entire conversation, I see what you’re saying. My fault.

Ben Filley says:

and what exactly are you agruing? my statement was that it was constitutional to hold proceedings back which would have deligated resources to ACA, by the sound of your comment i think we are on the same side, but i could be wrong, would you mind clarifying?

Bluto2973 says:

So now millions have to suffer this scam because of you? There are no better alternatives?

Bluto2973 says:

Actually, it’s not constitutional. It violates the Origination Clause. All bills for raising revenue (tax) must originate in the House. The ACA was a shell bill, but the original bill passed by the House did not raise revenue; therefore, the revenue-raising portion of the ACA originated in the Senate. The reason they thought they could get away with it was they were relying on the Commerce Clause. Moreover, this is an UN-APPORTIONED direct tax per the, which also makes it unconstitutional.

Ben Filley says:

i would suppose im a the the point dagney was for about the first half to 2/3 of the book. i see whats wrong, but im still trying to work within the system to make it work. but im starting to really become cynical about what the outcome will be. i think ill just leave it at that, as far as i can tell you and i are on the same team. and i dont want to be seen as arguing with someone who has the same goals. im not a politician afterall.

Ben Filley says:

i completely understand what you are saying. but at this point i understand some things may have to be sacrificed. we arent going to get back what we put in. i understand this. its not returning of what has been stolen that i care about. i want to see it all crumble. i just want to see it all burn and start over. i know nothing can be done about the past, but dammit if we can do something about the future. thats why i wish he were real. same as galt and d’anconia. the truth is ugly but necessary

Shawn Anderson says:

Private charities are 150% more effective than public welfare. If you want to help someone, don’t squander away $billions or $trillions in a government system rife with overhead, corruption, and bureaucracy. Christians should stand up against blatant misuse of funds that are, as everyone knows, never intended for their stated use. In other words, it isn’t about healthcare, it’s about grabbing power. It isn’t about educations, it’s about indoctrination. It isn’t about banking but money control.

usACTIONnews says:

Improved healthcare was never the goal. Socialized medicine is the goal and with the implementation of Obamacare it will be achieved. See “Why Obama is Soooo Fanatical About Obamacare” “When Vladimir I. Lenin sought to remake Russian society into a “proletariats’ paradise,” he targeted three sectors for control: health care, banking and education. Sound familiar? Of these three, however, Lenin viewed socialized medicine as the “keystone” to building his socialist utopia.” — IBD

ShinyRealMoney says:

This system will fail and a new one will be put into place as it has repeatedly in our history. The question now is can we as Americans put aside our differences and come together to make sure that the new paradigm is one that benefits us all rather that a few wealthy aristocrats. We all have different views and we must respect each other, no matter differences. Politicians and the wealthy love this petty squabbling because while we are calling each other names they are robbing our future.

ShinyRealMoney says:

Our system right now is design to benefit a wealthy few who invest little back into the real economy. It is not just about healthcare or jobs or anything like that. It is about the parasites on top who have sucked us dry and are trying to squeeze out the last little bit. Any solution offered to our current problems, be it the ACA or whatever, will fail because it still operates in the same failing paradigm.

ShinyRealMoney says:

Respectfully, I disagree that they are different issues. The whole reason for the mandate is because we supposedly would not be able to afford it otherwise. We could have split the banks up, secured depositors, and let the rest fail. On top of the $700 billion TARP bailout, the Fed loaned out over $9 trillion to foreign banks. We allow the currency to be produced debt free by the Treasury and use the funds to invest in infrastructure and health technologies. The economic gain would be huge.

gbshaun says:

These are 2 separate issues. TARP (under Bush) bailed out the banks, but was really protecting the savings of all of us. I agree the banks have NOT played fair with the money they were loaned. I agree we CAN take care of the needy, there’s plenty of resources in this country to do so. Of course too many (ironically those who call themselves born again Christians in particular) who are only concerned about themselves and not willing to contribute to programs such as single-payer basic coverage.

gbshaun says:

To be clear, I (and Romney) ONLY consider a freeloader a person who COULD afford insurance but chose to spend the money on something else (cool mag wheels, vacation etc). I believe we have a moral duty to look after those who genuinely can’t afford it, and agree we have spent far too much overseas despite worthy causes domestically. In the past year an acquaintance had a $200,000 ER bill. They had no insurance yet they drive a BMW. Guess who pays?.. it gets rolled into what the rest of us pay

muhdikyo says:

#impeachobama

ShinyRealMoney says:

But when banks are in trouble they come up with a trillion dollars to help them out. They give them money at 0% who then loan it back to us at 2%. You have JP Morgan who collects fees for distributing the food stamps. There is more than enough to take care of the people who need it in the country without forcing them to do anything. It is the system of monetary debt creation that creates this false scarcity that there is never enough to care for the people.

ShinyRealMoney says:

I have paid every medical bill I have ever had and have not went to the doctor if I couldnt afford it, even though I probably should have. My point is we have enough money to drop bombs all over the world that cost us billions but if someone here needs help then they are “freeloaders.” Or how about the billions we give to countries that hate us? I understand that having large amounts of people dependent on government is dangerous and people take advantage of that system.

ShinyRealMoney says:

You are correct, he himself never said terrorist. It was other ad hominem attacks. Sen Obama not only voted against the debt ceiling, he gave a eloquent speech that any tea party person would be proud of, saying we were “taking out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children,” and saying raising the debt ceiling is “irresponsible and unpatriotic.” That is more than a symbolic vote and very hypocritical. I agree with a lot he said on the campaign trail, not now though.

gbshaun says:

why remove the mandate? Are you a freeloader? Because at the moment most of us here pay (or our employer pays) for our own insurance AND we have to pay for freeloaders who COULD afford it but choose not to. If you’re a Freeloader, sorry but i’m sick of paying for your ER room visits. Mitt Romney explained this much better than i did. search for videos of Romney Mandate

gbshaun says:

DefRockn. If the Republicans thought this would be a huge failure they would be salivating over its implementation, then win every election because of it for the next 10 years. If you haven’t worked it out yet, the reason they’re trying to bring it down is precisely because they realize it’s going to be seen as something the Democrats finally got done for the people. 59% of Americans either approve of Obamacare OR THINK IT DIDN’T GO FAR ENOUGH !

captnhuffy says:

Sorry, the USA is spending $1.00 for every 0.12 cents it collects…… your riches are gone….. in fact, your children & grandchildren are being born into Slavery.

If the Fascist State were to tax everyone at 100% of their earning, it still would not pay off the debt…

What things of (real) value could Ragnar take back from the State, & deliver to us , the rightful producers, creators, innovators earners & labors ???

** We want our country back – and that would be almost enough **

gbshaun says:

Nothing has convinced me more that the ACA is a good thing for America than the lengths the GOP has had to go to to turn people off of it. This is just one more example where apparently something totally false had to be contrived. If they REALLY though it was a Democrat-owned blunder they’d have been salivating at the thought of it being implemented.

gbshaun says:

That last part is not quite true (and you probably know it). Sen Obama did vote against raising the debt ceiling but it was a symbolic vote only made knowing the bill would pass. There’s a big difference, and it’s a common tactic. Indeed well over 100 GOP lawmakers voted against raising the debt ceiling this time, but not all actually wanted us to default. Finally I don’t believe POTUS ever described those who voted Nay as “terrorists”

Michael Bauer says:

I’ve read the constitution. It’s how I know that House members don’t do anything on the Senate floor. They’re separate chambers, House and Senate.

I’m confused why you think I’m a Republican. You’re right, it is Constitutional; it also flies in the face of what the American people want. No one supported the shut-down except the fringe.

Ben Filley says:

dont get my hopes up like that.

Ben Filley says:

it IS constitutional. i suggest you read the constitution. do you really think they would have done something illegal on the senate floor in front of the entire nation? really? the house has a specific job. and they did it. they used a legal tactic, just as obama used a legal tactic to force ACA through. dont be pissed when we decide tofinally start using the tools available to us to legally remedy a situation. your just pissed your wrinkly old republicans didnt think of it first.

Ben Filley says:

seems to me the only ones doing anything different than the same old same old, which is what got us into this mess, are the ones being called extreme, and radical. everyone else is just doing the same thing voer again, expecting different results. it has NEVER worked in the past, why would it work this time?

Ben Filley says:

yet we are told we have a choice? is it some kind of a sick joke? bleach them both and shave them down and tell me how much of a difference you see. mainstream repubs want to spend money and wage war. so do the dems. mainstream repubs want military welfare, dems want social welfare. neither of them want us to be able to make decisions about our own body and the healthcare we get. they want to cram their views down your throat and they tell you thinking any other way is unpatriotic, and extreme.

Ben Filley says:

sadly, the ACA was written majorly on a foundation of Romneycare from when he was Gov of Mass. we had to choose between a rich white guy giving us socialism, or a black guy giving us socialism. (over simplified, but stick around till i get to my point) we were told we had a choice, but all we get is some puppet master pulling the strings. on the left you get a guy who promotes almost ALL the black stereotypes. and on the right we had a guy who fit almost ALL the “republican” stereotypes.

Ben Filley says:

Now if only Ragnar were real. Sigh.

DefRockn says:

Just remember folks THE DEMOCRAT PARTY DID THIS TO US . They wrote it with ZERO republican input and passed it with ZERO republican votes. Not that I love Republicans so much but at least they are trying to stop this disaster and they have all along from the very beginning

DefRockn says:

I bet you cannot repeat the phrase “government run healthcare” 20 times without getting nauseous

ShinyRealMoney says:

Remove the mandate and exchanges, leave the preexisting condition clause and cap what they can charge. The insurance companies will still offer their product and make a lot of money doing so. Better yet, lets figure out a way to make it more profitable to keep people out of the hospital than in it. There are a lot of smart people that could figure it out.

ShinyRealMoney says:

And you could not do the same without a mandate? ACA was written by the Insurance companies and no doubt they will see an increase in profits. With that we will also get higher rates at a increase cost to the tax payer.

ShinyRealMoney says:

To make a blanket statement like that is ignorant and shows that you have been trapped by the two party system. There are good, and bad, people on both sides of the debate.

themanyouwishyouwere says:

I think there are several that actually can now get health insurance that could not before due to pre existing conditions. But because you are a total idiot you would not realize that.

themanyouwishyouwere says:

The voice of the whiny Republican seemed accurate. What did they expect the chat person to do? Fix the website themselves? Republicans are retarded.

Darin Warren says:

Here’s my solution. Pay your own medical bills or die.

Darin Warren says:

And you want someone else to pay for your medical bills?

Lore Westphal says:

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lrdazure says:

its fucking cleverbot!!!!

Robert Cuminale says:

The typo in line one should have read thinking, not thing.

Robert Cuminale says:

Your first and last mistake is thing you have the ability to think critically. If had that ability you would realize how stupid Liberals are. “Liberalism is an insult to common sense.”

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